Something about the PD

Ok, so we all know about the size Big O is. Now, when he "returns" he goes into the prarie dog. Now think how big the PD would have to be then...and how can he fit into the subway? I haven't been to NY recently, but I definitley don't remember it being that huge

Well, first off we don't know how far into the future the "Event" is, so there is no telling how bigger the subway has become. Second, Big-O is laying down in the PD. So I think he can fit through the NY Subway without trouble.

As of now, thee's no way they'd be wide or tall enough. You'd need to remove support beams and make it taller...

That transporter looks pretty wide, alright.
Isn't it essentially two locomotives running side-by-side?

I think that it needs another name.
It doesn't condure-up images of the mechanical force needed to be Big O's mighty transporter.
Maybe something simple yet forceful, like Cannon Ball.

I kinda like the name of the Prairie Dog - it's whimsical. ^_^

My husband and I estimated Big O to be 250 feet tall by comparing him to buildings and such (I'm finding the 'official' height of 98 feet hard to swallow). So, given the fact that Big O actually lies down within the Prairie Dog ... size of transport inrelation to Big O ... size of trains (those four are not subway trains, those are definitely industrial trains) ... then we're talking at the most a quarter mile in length - well over a thousand feet.

Are there any stats on it?

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Originally posted by Lady Tesser My husband and I estimated Big O to be 250 feet tall by comparing him to buildings and such (I'm finding the 'official' height of 98 feet hard to swallow).

I think your estimate of height-per-story is a little long. Big O is about 8 stories high on Smith Central (the top floor was not taken out when he punched out of the building in Act 23.). If the floors are 12' high, eight stories makes 96'. Pretty close to 98'.

Pygmalion

Who also likes the name "Prairie Dog." Besides, PD's much faster than Big O crawling through the subway system.

(Every time I look at this thread title, I think "Photodiode -- no, not photodiode! Prairie Dog!" Darn optics jargon, anyway.)

I agree with the stat on Big O being about 98' tall. Useing known hights from MS seen in the Gundam series and the avarage hight of a person as fixed points of reference, Pygmalion's 8 story figure, at 12' per story, fits with the approxamate sizeing.

Still find it hard to swallow, especially with Roger standing on his shoulder, so I don't make height references in fics.

If the numbers 30 m for Big O and 180 cm for Roger are correct, then Big O is 16 2/3 Rogers high.

Pygmalion

The tunnels the Prairie Dog uses are NOT the normal Subway tunnels. I think that they were designed intentionally for its use, seeing as how even in normal tunnels the tracks are much closer together. It would fit with my theory that the entire system - tunnels, Prairie Dog, hangar in the mansion - was set up well before Roger & Norman began using it.

And you have to remember, dimensions in the show tend to...fluctuate a little. In the beginning of Act 2, for example, when Big O is being moved from the PD to his hangar rack, we can clearly see that his arms stick out so far that there wouldn't be enough room between the two "engines" on the PD.

Plus, how did you estimate the number of stories in the Smith Mansion? It has those big black plating around most of it, so you can't exactly count the windows.

Well, we know that Big O's foot is the size of a one-car garage (in fact, it is a one-car garage). And we can estimate the Griffon at about four feet tall. So the 'heel' part of Big O's foot is about 8 to 10 feet tall. And by measuring the Big O scale model on my wife's CD holder, the heel part of Big O is 1/25 of the total height. That gives a height of 200 to 250 feet tall.

Again, one episode showed Norman standing next to Big O's head in the repair scaffold. Official sources list Norman's height at 6'6". The head is approximately twice Norman's height. That makes the head between 12 and 14 feet tall. Neasured against the rst of Big O, we still get approximately 250 feet.

Reverse-calculating, from seeing Roger stand next to the Griffon, we can estimate the Griffon at approximately 15 feet in length. If Big O were 98 feet tall, then the Griffon standing on it's fender would extend from the ground to Big O's knee, and Big O's foot would not be as wide as the Griffon's tire span. Yet we know that Big O's foot contains a garage. Therefore, it must be larger than 98 feet in height.

So, all objective evidence indicates a height of approximately 250 feet, plus-or-minus 25 feet.

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Originally posted by Prince-Consort Tesser So, all objective evidence indicates a height of approximately 250 feet, plus-or-minus 25 feet.

In that case, I'm really glad I don't have to dust the ceilings at Smith Mansion.

Pygmalion

The PD was built especially to carry a megadeus. So whoever built big o, built the prarrie dog, and whoever built the prarrie dog knew about the underground tunnels , so the tunnels are probably built (or modified) for megadeii. They did have that giant terminal beneath the mansion....

eh who am I kidding. Its just a show. Everyone knows a giant robot would probably fall over too much to be effective anyway..

"In that case, I'm really glad I don't have to dust the ceilings at Smith Mansion."

Considering the fact that despite being 250 ft. tall in comparison to cars and people the Big O still only stands around 8 stories high, making every floor in every building in Paradigm City around 30 feet high, I'm glad I don't have to dust the ceilings anywhere around there.

OK, OK.

How about The Salamander?
Or The Warthog?

Here we go:
The Centipede.
It's long, low, black, and is carrying a big can of Whoop-Ass.

What about the Puma?

i wonder if any1 else will get that...

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Originally posted by Prince-Consort Tesser Well, we know that Big O's foot is the size of a one-car garage (in fact, it is a one-car garage). And we can estimate the Griffon at about four feet tall. So the 'heel' part of Big O's foot is about 8 to 10 feet tall. And by measuring the Big O scale model on my wife's CD holder, the heel part of Big O is 1/25 of the total height. That gives a height of 200 to 250 feet tall. Again, one episode showed Norman standing next to Big O's head in the repair scaffold. Official sources list Norman's height at 6'6". The head is approximately twice Norman's height. That makes the head between 12 and 14 feet tall. Neasured against the rst of Big O, we still get approximately 250 feet. Reverse-calculating, from seeing Roger stand next to the Griffon, we can estimate the Griffon at approximately 15 feet in length. If Big O were 98 feet tall, then the Griffon standing on it's fender would extend from the ground to Big O's knee, and Big O's foot would not be as wide as the Griffon's tire span. Yet we know that Big O's foot contains a garage. Therefore, it must be larger than 98 feet in height. So, all objective evidence indicates a height of approximately 250 feet, plus-or-minus 25 feet.

Don't be so sure. I've noticed, even before this topic, that Big O appeared to "grow" mysterously in overall size between seasons. A signifigant goober on the part of the animators.

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eh who am I kidding. Its just a show. Everyone knows a giant robot would probably fall over too much to be effective anyway..

Than is why in every Mobile Suit in any Gundam series uses an AMBAC (Active Mass Ballance And Control) system to keep it stable.

I think that, atleast, the Big O is taller and much bigger than an Evangelion and gloviously bigger than an Arm Slave in that respect. I'd sooner go along with the 250' instead of the 98'. Of course, since this is anime, navigability is considered before height and size ever are, so we can't rely on its ease of movement to allude to its true size.

As for the subways themselves, I've been in some pretty big ones. In Washington D.C., I was in one sucker of a tunnel that could have easily held the Big O on its back.

AHEM!
I AM A TRAIN EXPERT!!!

This is easy
Of course the prairedog is immense, that's a given, but it CAN ride through the subway THink about, the year in Paradigm is obviously a long time after this present. They must have increased the size of the subway alot by then. Also I've noticed many many Japanese trains in the episodes that are abondoned on sidings and such that clearly are too big to be in an American subway.

The prariedog uses a large consist of bogies (the wheels that are grouped together ) to help distribute the wieght of the megadeus and the train evenly along two tracks. (NOTE: there are actually two parallel pairs of rails under the PD. Subways usually run parallel anyways so it works to it's advantage) Now that huge turntable in the "center" of the system is BRITISH. (or at least it used to be. I have several pics of subway turntables in books I have. But I can't get them up here )That hasn't been used in american subway since they were converted from steam to electric. Now then. Because of the prariedog's size you must understand that it really can only carry the Big O very low to the ground. Big O lays farther down in PD than you think This allows it to travel in the subway. Now then, how such a HUGE single-piece train can go around curves is beyond my understanding since the curves in subways are usually very tight.


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Wow! That certainly clears everything up. Thanks a bunch, evanASF27!