An entirely DIFFERENT association of Big O with...

evanASF27 11-21-2003 01:36 AM
I was half asleep in bed I thought of this so bear with me here folks *yawn*

Maybe we have looked at Big O in the wrong way (or at least I have). Let us fall back on the notion that the story is about Roger Smith and his life. He uses the Big O as a tool to get things done yes but we are missing the important aspects here after that fact. We assume that it deals with God all through it and the eventual apocalypse of mankind and the know world. But that's where it stops and changes! Why assume it's about (the) PARADIGM CITY? What about Roger?? What significance does Big Venus play and why did it have to be Angel???
Here's MY answer. Long awaited from the Act26 Discussion thread Smile It isn't an apocalypse, it's life itself.

Roger Smith, and average shmoe that is an ordinary human being. (like in the phrase "keeping up with the Smiths" or in some cases people use the name 'Jones' in place of Smith. Around me people used the name 'Smith'). Big O is merely the attention grabber. Sure R.D. said it was a chariot of god, but I'll explain that later. Big O represents Roger Smith and his life; he deals (negotiates) with problems and comes out with an end result ("No Side" "To Be Continued" "We Have Come to Terms"). Big O is that little extra inner strength he calls upon to get the problem in his life solved. It's symbolic of your inner strength, and in his case, his inner strength can be compared with a giant robot! But let me continue. In Roger Smith's life we find he comes across one reoccurring problem (BIG DUO + SCHWARZWALD) that keeps popping up here and there. He eventually damages or gets the problem pretty much dealt with until he it to be alive (Big Duo doesn't need a master) and it can still walk or survive. But then it dies for the time being and Roger doesn't have to deal with it. Later still he has to deal with another huge problem in his life (represented by Big Fau). This struggle is the biggest one he has ever faced and he calls upon his inner strength to help him "rise above the others in the Big O". (end of The Third Big).
...So now THAT problem is over with...but then he finds his first romance. He finds out that he really does care for someone (represented by R. Dorothy Wayneright). Only he can't really decide if it's the right and best decision to love this person (in this example because she's an android). So he merely cares for here and puts up with her. Suddenly in midlife his old problem arises once again (BIG DUO INFERNO) but with some new unforeseen problems (ALAN GABRIEL). It is a lot harder to get through this conflict and Roger nearly dies (can be compared to a real life tragedy like losing a loved one ((Dorothy's memories are stolen)) or even a midlife crisis). Roger Smith however doesn't die (give up) but he is lucked out when the problem itself destroys itself when it (Big Duo Inferno) realizes that this isn't what it was meant to do (so it kills itself and it's master). Roger rediscovers that he is still in depression (extremely upset over his loss ((of Dorothy’s memories)) ).

So now are you having fun with my Freudian style post?? IT AIN'T OVER FOLKS!!! *afro moment*

After a short period of time our main character, Roger Smith, finds out to his greatest fear that his old struggle between good and evil has resurrected itself and now threatens to take over his LIFE ((NOTE!! Alex Rosewater says "This world has a new order now, it has a new god", in this reference it can be translated as "Roger's life is now altered, he is becoming evil. GIVE IN!")). Big Fau is more powerful than before, but Roger refuses with his own life and goodness (BIG O) that he will not let this evil exist in him for any longer (Big Fau will be destroyed and Paradigm City will be rd of it once and for all). So Roger now goes through the largest struggle he has ever faced...the struggle against the end of his life. His memories are awaken (he realizes what his life was for) and he taps into the greatest inner strength for the ultimate attack against his evil (FINAL STAGE!!). Big O attacks...Roger destroys his evil but (in his final hours) he is nearly stuck down because the evil returns ((a person would be very old, and in a hospital at this point)). BUT! The evil is vanquished by something far worse... DEATH (BIG VENUS), Roger has nothing left to use in the fight against death (no one ever does), but valiantly is doesn't give up (enters ANGEL). He assumes that this opponent is a lesser evil instead (Angel has returned so he thinks as Big Venus)...but this isn't any "Angel", it's the Angel of Death. Big Venus, the angel, walks ever closer to Roger Smith and his now useless inner strength which has been used up and is nothing more than an empty shell. ((The man is in his final minutes of his life))
Death is face to face with the man known as Roger Smith. He approaches death in unison with his inner strength and death combines with him...they both become one and thus cancel each other out. Roger was the one with the will of LIFE ... Big Venus was the angel of DEATH. The two together ended this man's life and so ends the series.


*EDIT!!!!!*
ACK! I forgot to explain why R.D. said Big O was a chariot of God.
Big O was called a chariot of God because in this person, it was the ultimate inner strength. That stength had the power to take on death itself...but unfortunately it was used up before the time was right.

*EDIT 2!!*
I forgot the part about the cycle X_x Sorry...here it is!
You see, Roger Smith (this ordinary man who has lived out his purpose in life ((in Paradigm City))) is now dead, but we find that Roger is reborn the instant BEFORE he dies (This is sorta like the near death expierence people have before they "die"...but they do come back). Roger sees death and every option likewise in those few brief moments and then he is reborn as a new "Roger Smith".
(The new Roger Smith never actually sees the dying Roger DIE. Angel does, and so she is the witness to the miracle of God, the "life - struggle - death" cycle of human kind. ((Roger is born again or REWOUND back to the beginning or in a sense his "childhood" in the story as a new person...never knowing about his past life or his PAST MEMORIES)))

*The End*
YZEtc 11-21-2003 08:30 AM
That was a great explanation!
I enjoyed it.

Yes, those drowsy-time ideas are pretty deep, sometime. Wink
Zola 11-21-2003 09:15 AM
Very nice job, Evan, to look at the series as an allegory. Smile
evanASF27 11-21-2003 11:44 AM
Yah I know it was a good theory Smile It's just that it seems to rival ever other theory for the series that everyone else has made Roll Eyes

I really would like some feed back on the idea. So come on people!
What do y'all think??

I've heard feedback from Zola and YZEtc, but let's hear some more opinions Smile )



((I actually remembered it last night only because I forgot it after the Act26 Discussino ended Embarrassed Sweatdrop ...I was too caught up in school work Frown ))
Lia's calling 11-21-2003 11:55 AM
i like your theory, so considering the fact that in the end everything started over again in a new cycle, how does that fit into your theory? Is he reborn? Also while i think your on the right path, your making it ...whats the word....more dramatic than it is, ..you have to truly think of it in the context of being a actual human problem. Not death and life. but instead...life itself. I think. Anybody getting what i'm saying..? I think i need to reword this...sigh
evanASF27 11-21-2003 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by Lia's calling
i like your theory, so considering the fact that in the end everything started over again in a new cycle, how does that fit into your theory? Is he reborn?...


Did I forget that? Confused ...*rereads post*...

oh darn I did!! X_x Sorry bout that umm... I shall add that bit now Embarrassed Sweatdrop Lemme edit that post then Anime Smile

*edit*
There! it's put in now Pleased Big Grin
Tifaria 11-21-2003 05:35 PM
So then.. the whole show is just an allegory for the cycle of life of a random guy named Roger Smith? Hmm.. I actually kind of like that theory. I'm still not sure if I understood all of it, but I like the overall theme you've got going. Smile ) Lots of metaphors and stuff, but I love overanalyzing things, so that's okay.
Sharpshooter005 11-21-2003 07:01 PM
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Now THAT, has probably gotta be THE MOST UNEXPECTED outlook on this entire show I've ever read, that has never even faintly crossed my mind.

Correct or incorrect, that was very interesting.
Lone bebop 11-21-2003 07:38 PM
I think evan's theroy is well thought out and it also makes a lot more sence then some of the other theroys out there, espicaly ones that have all the stuff about reilgon, i mean when i read those i have to call up my brother in collage and ask whos who and stuff, so all in all its seems like a really good theroy and does explain some of Big O's plot holes,
evanASF27 11-21-2003 08:22 PM
It don't matter to me if I'm correct or incorrect n this one. I just think that their's too much religion involved in it all. And so to keep most of are little sanity I thought up that good ol theory. I really wasn't too aware of the details before Act26...but now that post is all my ideas and metaphors of that show Big Grin

I'm happy people arent saying "NO YOU ARE WRONG YOU PSYCHO!" Embarrassed Sweatdrop
Mugiwara Luffy 11-24-2003 11:13 PM
NO YOU ARE WRONG YOU PSYCHO! HAHA Just kidding....

That's some darn good thinking you've done there, Evan. One of the possibly thousands of different ways to interpret Big O. I certainly enjoyed reading it.

On a side note, I don't think there is one universal theory that is absolutely correct. I think everyone has to take their own meaning from it. "Big O" has a lot of different levels to it. Some people are gonna take maybe 2 levels away from it and some might take 100!
evanASF27 11-24-2003 11:15 PM
And what level am I on? ... B666? Big Grin Laughing
Mugiwara Luffy 11-24-2003 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by evanASF27
And what level am I on? ... B666? Big Grin Laughing


Haha, yes probably. Big Grin

Actually I like this theory. Come on, let's hear what others think!
A Clockwork Tomato 11-25-2003 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by evanASF27
I've heard feedback from Zola and YZEtc, but let's hear some more opinions Smile )


Well, speaking with my writer's hat on, allegories are the kiss of death where audience involvement is concerned. If you want to clear a theatre fast, put on an allegorical play.

An allegory is basically a shadow play where the action isn't really important, but kinda-sorta retells some kind of loftier story that the viewers already know by heart. This is completely at odds with the needs of an action show.

If you want to hang onto your viewers (or readers), you'd better make sure that the show is about the actual characters, and not about some other characters that you aren't actually depicting.